Q1 2006 Norfolknet Notes, Jan-Mar 2006

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  • 3/31 5:46pm   Re: I do find irony in its (the CARE group's) apparent redundancy of human capital and effort already in place through the PTA, School Committee, and Town Counsel.
    That's the irony of the free market -- it works best with lots of wasteful redundancy, and not at all with none. Holds for the marketplace of ideas as well.
    - AR

  • 3/31 5:41pm   Re: 3/31 2:31pm I have been searching the Norfolk websites trying to find the outcome of the Weeber property purchase proposal by the CPA. What was the outcome? Thanks, - LQ
    The warrant for the Jan 31, 2006 Special Town Meeting appears here:
    [Town Hall PDF]
    The results for that vote appear here: 2/1 8:54am Article 1, the purchase of the Weeber property, passed. - Wm.
    - BH

  • 3/31 5:39pm   PA, thank you for putting to words a very caring tribute to those who serve us on a daily basis in this town. I have often maintained it is goodness that speaks softly and with a positive direction. Unfortunately, the rash negative types speak the loudest. It is evident in all form of the media. If only the kinder gentler souls would speak up to be heard like you, then perhaps the futures of our children would reflect the same. Human nature is to learn from experience, and if raised in an irrational way, then the cycle of seeing the glass half empty will continue for generations to come. I find it a bit frustrating to see again, in print a renewed attempt by one contributor to force the readers of this page to see a view in their way. It is apparent there is truly a lack of discipline there.
    - BF

  • 3/31 5:25pm   RH, Norfolk may not have a strong legal case against Stop and Shop, but we could be employing other tactics to force their hand. For example, we could wage a very effective public relations campaign against them, taking advantage of Ahold's poor corporate record and their aggressive land banking tactics in other states such as Connecticut. Ahold is a large corporation and they are concerned about their corporate image. We need some fresh innovative thinking here. Doing nothing just because we might not have a clear cut legal case is a losing strategy.
    You're right, there are no easy answers to the budget. That's why we need to take a business-like approach and do the best job we can each year to keep spending in line with revenue. Annual overrides are not the answer. The property tax is very regressive and unfairly places the tax burden on those with limited financial resources, just because their houses have risen in value. This is forcing people to sell their beloved homes and move out of town. If property taxes continue at their current rate of growth, they will ultimately undermine our property values.
    Remember the CPC members are appointed by the Selectmen. The CPC holds the purse strings to the only real savings the town has, so it's an important committee. We need to better utilize these funds and this can only happen through the CPC approval process. This committee can function better.
    Regarding business development, our track record speaks for itself. Looking around I see lots of vacant parcels that could be developed to bring in more tax revenue. You yourself said it best, we have to set up conferences to help developers "get through the maze of state and local regulations." Why do we have such a maze of local regulations in the first place? There is a reason so many parcels are vacant. We can do better here as well.
    - SM

  • 3/31 4:31pm   I met the owners of the new nail salon today, Star Nails. 508-528-3200. Located at the O'Laughlin Bldg. 206 Main St. Very nice couple, Dave and Lisa, had my nails done and Dave did a nice job. Just wanted to wish them luck and to let the town know that we now have a place to be pampered. Good prices also. They had purchased a new lighted sign but when it was installed, big shock, the town said, oh by the way, no lighted signs. Hmmm. would have been nice to tell them that before, but hey, that's Norfolk for ya.
    - JW

  • 3/31 2:56pm   Election season's in full swing, the rhetoric is heating up! And it sure is a gorgeous day out there today.
    - Wm.

  • 3/31 2:47pm   Everyone seems to hold the selectmen at fault for not 'forcing' Stop & Shop to built on the property. I for one am not aware of any law that requires a land owner to build a structure, nor have I heard anyone here claim to have known of one. Also, based on the presentation at last years town meeting, I do not believe all or even a significant portion our financial problems would be solved by developing this property. Sure the town center may have a better appearance, more for people to do, and perhaps some of the existing shops would benefit from increased traffic to the center.
    But my concern about building a Stop & Shop is like others. I am afraid that should they build the typical mega-store, that this town would not be able to support it to the point that it would make financial sense for Stop & Shop to close. By then sadly, we may have even lost some of the existing stores in the center that compete with Stop & Shop due to the loss of sales. We now end up with a center that looks even worse.
    Finally, I don't know of anyone that can think of a project that would qualify for CPA funds that would provide a benefit to everyone. Perhaps best I can think of would be to ask Stop & Shop to lease the land to the town for something like $1 per year for ten years. We could than cover the area and make parks on the two parcels. Heck let them pay for the building the fields and call them Stop & Shop field. We still get taxes, they get to keep out the competition, and we get a better looking center. Then maybe we could use some CPA funds to construct a simple (read low cost maybe even community built for those concerned about tax dollars) summer theater stage for the concerts and plays. Maybe even a summer movie night. For some reason the summer concerts at the rec fields just don't hold the same feeling as those that were held at the gazebo.
    - SF

  • 3/31 2:42pm   Re: 3/31 12:32pm MA, Mike Kulesza is honest, smart and creative. ... - SM
    Questions for SM:
    1. Under what authority from which Massachusetts General Law may the Town "force Stop and Shop to build or give up the site"?
    2. "each year they come back for another override". What would you do, tell King Philip we won't approve their budget? Tell the Norfolk schools to lay off teachers? Tell the health insurance firms that Norfolk will not pay higher rates? Tell the MBTA that we will not pay their unreasonable increased assessments? Tell the Governor to distribute some of the 1.2 Billion dollars in undistributed funds available at State level? These are difficult questions, which all of us in town are very concerned about. There are no easy answers. Those who offer simplistic answers may be uninformed.
    3. The CPC committee is not being held accountable? In what respect? It is the Town Meeting that approves any expenditure, not the CPC. They may recommend to the Town Meeting, but folks in the Town Meeting spend the money.
    4. We have a lack of business development in town ? Some businesses held off until Town water was available. Now there is a large amount of commercial land under active development near Provo Liquors off Rt. 1A.
    Comment: All of our Selectmen are honest, smart, and creative, plus they are experienced in Town Government.
    The "Round Table" conferences have apparently done a lot to allow developers to get through the maze of local and state regulations pertaining to building. These conferences are meant to make the permitting processes more user-friendly. If anyone has additional suggestions to improve local government, you might contact the Selectmen or Town Administrator, here: [Town Hall web site]
    - BH

  • 3/31 2:32pm   I never considered myself the sensitive type, but I am uncomfortable reading the CARE group's references to the School Committee and the Superintendent. I applaud the civic commitment, and I respect the "right of the people" to express their opinion - or discuss statements of fact, etc. That said, against a budgetary backdrop of much needed fiscal restraint and cost cutting, I do find irony in its apparent redundancy of human capital and effort already in place through the PTA, School Committee, and Town Counsel.
    I mean, I consider myself to be as involved as the next parent with regard to the learning environment to which I entrust the development of little junior each day, and the fact is - the kid loves School, loves his teachers- and frankly- I think they have a pretty good thing going. In this era of MCAS and No Child Left Behind, there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room for any of the stakeholders.
    That said, my observation of the Superintendent is that she is a pretty sharp cat, and together with the School Committee, they have done a pretty good job of managing morale and providing the students and faculty with a curriculum they can be proud of, and an environment in which they can succeed.
    Let's let them do their jobs in accordance with the realities of the landscape. I am concerned that this Smoking Gun mentality is going to translate into uneasiness among the ranks of our valued front line educators, which in turn could lead to increased turnover, diminished creativity, and the other intangibles which currently inspire the success of the school environment.
    Let's not leverage the taxpayer dollars of Norfolk to somehow champion and underwrite the fight to challenge the guidelines and expectations of the No Child Left Behind era. I understand that we lost an educator mid- year, and the poor children were left without the center of their universe. The good news is - they are kids- and they appear to have bounced back. The bad news is - some taxpayers and voters continue to experience adjustment issues. In the end, the impact appears no different than if a teacher had to go out for extended medical or maternity leave.
    As a result, let's not diminish our shared investment in the Superintendent, and let's not diminish the commitment of the School Committee. And let's not unintentionally undermine the morale of the front line teachers. Otherwise, it's going to cost big dollars to fix- in terms of soft dollar intangibles and hard dollar recruitment, contract and capital costs.
    - PA (no relation to PA in previous posts)

  • 3/31 2:31pm   I have been searching the Norfolk websites trying to find the outcome of the Weeber property purchase proposal by the CPA. What was the outcome? Thanks,
    - LQ

  • 3/31 2:30pm   To MA: I am neither running Mike Kulesza's campaign nor part of his admiration society (I had heard that one might be formed, though!) I just happened to meet him, and came away impressed with his vision. He has a plan for what needs to be fixed in Norfolk, and I really believe he'll go about trying to fix it as best he can. Things have been on hold for three years, or more, and it's time for someone new to jump start them. Somehow I don't see naysayers posting things about Mike in three years saying that he failed to accomplish what he set out to do.
    - JC

  • 3/31 2:06pm   Norfolk, we get what we pay for.
    Take your anger and energy to Beacon Hill.
    Sen. Scott Brown 617-722-1555, scott.p.brown@state.ma.us;
    Richard Ross 617-722-2305, Rep.RichardRoss@Hou.State.MA.US
    In the meantime, overrides are necessary EVERY YEAR. We should get used to them and stop thinking that they are indicative of mismanagement. Rather, they are indicative of costs increasing greater than 2.5% a year. It gets worse when the state's contributions are less every year while their mandates continue to grow. As a result, the local property owner is left making up the growing gap.
    If you like the rural nature of Norfolk, and are opposed to Stop and Shop-type developments, then you should be the first to stand up and proclaim your desire to pay higher than AVERAGE taxes. Yes, we are only paying AVERAGE taxes based upon property value. With such little commercial base, you'd expect we'd already be paying higher than average taxes.
    Norfolk's:
    - Median household income: top 8.4% of all MA communities
    - Ave. property value: top 11.9% of all MA communities
    - Ave. tax bill: top 16% of all MA communities
    What this demonstrates is, we pay lower than average taxes considering both income and property value. Pick up your 4BR 2.5 BA Colonial (or better), move it to Norwell, Hingham, Lexington, anywhere nice, and just see how much out-of-pocket taxes you will be paying (in exchange for more people and more traffic)!
    All this means is that Norfolk does operate very lean -- that our officials and employees have done a good job keeping costs and taxes down. But we can afford more, and we can afford local circuit breaker relief for our fixed-income seniors and others. The Commonwealth knows this and is considering less Chapter 70 money per pupil for towns like Norfolk. It's only going to get worse. Pick up the phone. Phone numbers above.
    Regarding our children's education: we get what we pay for (quality of Superintendent and quality of Education). Norfolk's annual per pupil investment: $6,149 top 71% -- Huh? Yep, we're in the bottom 1/3 of the ENTIRE State when we fund public education! Plainville $6499, Wrentham $6499, Bellingham $6357, Hopkinton $8176, Wellesley $9802, Bedford $9546.
    Let's review: Norfolk: top tenth in income; bottom third in education.
    Don't our hard working, underpaid teachers deserve more from us? Will we be able to attract and retain the best teachers if they have to worry every year whether they will have job? If I were a good teacher, I'd start looking to a town that invests in education. Who will want to go into teaching if this is the work environment we create?
    Don't our kids deserver better?
    What are the alternatives? (How much are you willing to pay for education? What are your values?)
    Sage School: $17,800/year/child
    Charles River School: $25,600/child
    Ursaline Academy: $4,185/child
    Median yearly tuition for MA Independent Schools $18,597/child
    Norfolk: $0 or override: $364 (a few hundred dollars/household -- not per child).
    or move to another town and your taxes will still most likely be higher (because your house will be worth more and/or their tax rate will be higher).
    - RG

  • 3/31 12:35pm   I checked Mike's web site out, I have to tell you I don't find his campaign views very impressive. These are just broad generic statements that will take years to realize. Voters have more immediate questions for these candidates, which is how they are going to take us out of this financial mess?
    Perhaps, one way is to raise our taxes, which is unacceptable to most of the voters. The candidates need to come out with creative strategies to get us out of this financial mess; let the one with the best idea win.
    - TS

  • 3/31 12:34pm   CR: The porta-potty was delivered to Pond Street earlier this week. One of them is near the much-discussed shed.
    - TS

  • 3/31 12:32pm   MA, Mike Kulesza is honest, smart and creative. He is forward thinker who is a great business person who knows how to work with groups and build a consensus. With all due respect to Ramesh, he has talked a good game but what has he accomplished? We continue to look at the moonscape and nothing has been done to force Shop and Stop to build or give up the site. The town can't operate within it's budget and each year they come back for another override. The CPC committee is not being held accountable and has not yet put approved a project that will benefit all the town residents instead of select special interest groups. We have a lack of business development in town and the town is viewed as anti-businesses. I'd say it's time for a change.
    - SM

  • 3/31 12:23pm   This may be a little off-topic, but if the town or the state as a whole wants to save money, why not remove all the speed limit signs along the roads and reuse them for other kinds of signs - after all, nobody seems to know what they mean anyway. Just a thought.
    - CR

  • 3/31 11:22am   JC, Are you running Mike's campaign or are you just a member of his admiration society.
    - MA

  • 3/31 10:33am   Hey PA - I was at a meet and greet coffee the other day for Mike Kulesza. There were at least 50 people there (more than the usual Fall Town Meeting.) Mike is the forward thinking candidate. Did you catch Ramesh in the Boomerang? "We need to be deliberate and show a firm but fiscally responsible approach" Sounds like Ramesh, the 'every other year Override Selectman,' wants us to sit back and wait.
    At least Kulesza has a plan. He even has a website: VoteIlikemike.org
    - JC

    [Hey, I don't mind political ads on the page, but perhaps add some fine print -- you know, "This message was brought to you by..." etc. - Wm.]

  • 3/31 9:20am   Two quick points: 1) The superintendent is our employee. She works for us and we pay her salary. 2) The School Committee is comprised of elected officials, whom we vote into office (which is why it's important to attend events like the CARE Candidates' Forum on April 9). The superintendent reports directly to the School Committee.
    - CAM

  • 3/31 9:14am   I read minutes from another school commitee meeting recently that stated they were prepared to extend the lease of NCTV, and even voted as such [minutes here], yet I read last week in the Boomerang that they informed NCTV they need to pack up and move. What's up with that?
    - PC

  • 3/31 9:10am   CR, Just to let you know the Boy Scouts is a Christian based organization. In most public schools in Massachusetts, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are not allowed to use state facilities (this started with predjudices of not allowing gay men to be Boy Scout leaders, unjustly so). Again, we go back to separation of church and state. Although it was a nice gesture to allow the senior citizens use of their facility, let us not forget that the Boy Scouts is a christian based organzation, therefore, the church is the perfect place to hold these meetings.
    - DWL

  • 3/30 10:56pm   SP, our superintendent is not the first elected official with a difficult job to do and also have their contract scrutinized by the public. What elected official isn't scrutinized by the public that they are supposed to be serving? If she doesn't want her contract to be public record, she should get a job in the private sector. As parents of the children in this school system, I think we have every right to question the decisions being made and the details of the contracts being offered. If our school system is so strapped that it has to start cutting teachers and enrichment programs, but yet provide a 20% raise to the superintendent of the two schools, some people are bound to raise some flags.
    - JM

  • 3/30 10:55pm   Regarding JC's comment about upcoming board elections, is there any new information on the Board of Health situation? What was the outcome with Mr. Domey? Was he fired from Norfolk? If so, have we gotten a replacement? Any info would be helpful.
    - JM

  • 3/30 9:51pm   I agree with JC about the need for change in our town government, whether these people are elected or appointed. I had the chance to meet Mike Kulesza, who is running for selectman, and I came away from that meeting thoroughly impressed. As fas as the ZBA, how does one go about getting on that committee?
    - PA

  • 3/30 8:58pm   Everyday, newspapers and websites across the globe report on management decisions made by people in positions of authority, whether in private/public business or in their capacities as superintendents. To me, it's not a shame that anyone has to do a difficult job and is publicly accountable. That comes with the territory. In fact, with new corporate compliance laws, there are lots of people in high level positions with greater responsibilities, visibility and accountability than ever before. Turns out, that's a good thing.
    - CAM

  • 3/30 8:52pm   CARE announces a special, nonpartisan forum specifically for School Committee candidates who are running in the upcoming, contested election. The forum will be held on Sunday, April 9, 2006 from 3 - 4 in the Norfolk Public Library, Community Room.
    The CARE Candidates' Forum provides for a specific focus on School Committee candidates that acknowledges the importance of the School Committee role. To encourage community participation, the format is designed to include questions that reflect the pulse of Norfolk. The CARE forum is designed to complement the Norfolk Community League's Candidate's Night on Monday, April 10.
    [C o n t i n u e d . . .]
    - CM, Norfolk CARE

  • 3/30 4:58pm   Yes, I concur with JB. It can be easy to criticize the superintendent's compensation when you don't see the dynamic requirements of the role. Should she ever choose not to continue the good job she's doing here, the next superintendent will cost even more. In my opinion, it's a shame that anyone has to do a difficult job and have there their salary, bereavement and other job elements, and management decisions posted on websites and in newspapers. Persons in similar business roles don't have that.
    P.S.: There are several opportunities to see the proposed school budget and present your ideas and suggest alternatives. Our school administration is supposed to develop the budget alternatives we hear of and make the tough unpleasant choices. Every tax-funded group in Norfolk faces this every year and the solutions will be more unpleasant each year. Sadly, we may end up with more and more fee-based services as the larger cities use.
    P.P.S.: I completely disagreed with CPA funds going to any church, but my 'nay' was the only one heard at that town meeting. I support the town's decision because the matter was discussed openly and the voters decided. That's the way it should be.
    - SP

  • 3/30 4:57pm   Re: the post by JC at 4:29pm, "ZBA (Hopefully we'll see a change at the top. It is overdue.)" - The ZBA members aren't elected, they are appointed by the Board of Selectmen.
    - AB

  • 3/30 4:41pm   JB - That can be said about almost any job in the public sector, non-profits, civil service etc.
    - MJD

  • 3/30 4:32pm   A discussion on process and adherence to rules might stimulate some further thoughts and informed discussions regarding the School Committee. Sorry in advance for the long post, but I hope you will all find this information as compelling, relevant and important as I do. For starters, you might review the School Committee minutes dated 2/7/06 if you'd like some background on the timing of the superintendent's contract finalization: [norfolk.k12.ma.us link]
    Specifically, these 3 italicized excerpts may be of interest:
    Parent Community Representatives: ...asked for investigation into how the matter was handled in particular, the communication and requested a report from the committee and until then that the Committee suspend contract negotiations with the Superintendent; ...presented letter and petition to committee.

    New Business - Ed Piscitelli asked Kim Williams what the petition specifically stated. His concern was that since the agenda stated that the committee was prepared to finalize the Superintendent's contract in Executive Session and wanted to know if the petition mentioned the Superintendent's contract.

    Executive Session - not necessary.

    At this point, you may be wondering: where is the reference to the signing/finalization of the superintendent's contract? Then you are in good company... read on:
    At the 3/7/06 meeting (minutes have not been posted yet) the School Committee Chair 1) acknowledged that the Superintendent's contract was signed in an Executive Session immediately preceding the open meeting on 2/7/06 (this was also reported in the press) and 2) indicated that this should have been disclosed to those in attendance.
    There's an Open Meeting Law that applies to all School Committee meetings - it must be followed. Guidelines by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Office of the Attorney General are provided by the Attorney General to "give officials a tool to ensure their ability to comply with the Open Meeting Law...and (to) offer to citizens a guide with which to better understand the responsibilities of their elected and appointed officials, and of their rights and the means of enforcing those rights under the Law." [cbsys.ago.state.ma.us link].
    Even a cursory read of the Open Meeting Law Guidelines (look especially at the sections on Executive Sessions, Convening, and Minutes) give rise to questions as to not only what gets done, but how it gets done and whether it was done correctly in this case.
    I'm certainly no expert in this area, but there are reasons to query whether there has been compliance with the open meeting law. The answer is not an obvious yes. And that leads to an interesting read of the section on Remedies...
    - CAM

  • 3/30 4:30pm   Regarding the comments on the Federated Church, one thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the Church has historically allowed use of its rooms to groups in town that have no other convenient meeting space. For example, the seniors used to meet at the church for many of their functions prior to the new Senior Center being built. Currently, the Boy Scouts, Troop #80, meet every week at the Church.
    On another note, I was at Pond Street this week and didn't even notice a single Porta-Potty. With two sons playing baseball, and also as someone who enjoys going to the summer concerts, I guess I, and many others, will be once again wondering if we can make it to the end of the practice or concert... or will I have to use that Porta-Potty? The facility is getting used more and more, but not having bathrooms there is a major downside!
    - CR

  • 3/30 4:29pm   Here's my take on the upcoming election. We need new members on the following boards:
    Selectmen (We can't continue on with the overrides, change must occur.)
    Health (We need new leadership there. The debacle with the unlicensed agent was embarrassing.)
    ZBA (Hopefully we'll see a change at the top. It is overdue.)
    I suppose I could go on, but I'm trying to stay positiive!
    - JC

  • 3/30 2:01pm   If you think superintendents are overpaid, become one.
    - JB

  • 3/30 12:45pm   GDL - please re-read my post. The only reason I zeroed in on the bereavement pay was it was the only number I could specifically remember from the contract. In fact, I think the vacation and sick time may be higher than I mentioned. I said my experience has shown 3 days to be the norm - granted, I have always worked for companies as an "at will" employee, that is, no employment contract. I believe most people are like myself - no contract. You are fortunate your employer allows unlimited days off, but again, the norm is 3 days.
    My experience has also shown most people must work for a company for 10 years to earn 4 weeks vacation. Should they leave or lose that job and go to work somewhere else, guess what, they are back to 1-2 weeks vacation. My point is there are many hardworking people out there doing jobs just as difficult as a school super that do not come close to this amount of time off. I do agree, however, that bereavement pay is one benefit none of us want to use.
    - RJP

  • 3/30 12:44pm   JC - You bring up a good point about Selectman Chairman Advani. I watch cable and see Hathaway and Lehan working hard to try to avoid an override... Selectman Advani not present.
    You would think someone who is running for re-election would consider this a crucial time to be present. This is the same Selectman Advani who was not present for the Town Meeting vote on Weeber property. Sending it by email just does not cut it. If you want to represent the Town of Norfolk, stop trying to do it long distance - the job obviously requires more time than you can commit.
    - PC

  • 3/30 10:47am   I see a lot of talk here about yet another override. Where has the current Selectmen Chairman been on all of this? For a guy who ran 3 years ago as the fiscal conservative - 2 overrides in 3 years - and now he wants to be re-elected?
    No way! Time for the incumbents to leave.
    - JC

  • 3/30 8:55am   Note: if you've written us bout adding your business to the
    Town Businesses page of Norfolknet and heard nothing back, your e-mail might have gotten lost, please try again. The e-mail address on the listings page was misconfigured, and messages sent though it did not arrive; I apologize.
    - Wm.

  • 3/30 8:14am   Wm.: We're looking into limo service to Logan. A while back, there were several postings about transportation services to the airport. Do you recall when so that I can peruse the archives? Thanks.
    - TMN

    [Sure, most recently the question came up on 1/13 2:31pm 2006 Q1 with replies on and off through 1/17; previously, see 3/31 12:12pm and following in 2005 Q1. (No, I didn't quite recall, but I have better search tools available than the ^F built into the browser :-) - Wm.]

  • 3/29 8:53pm   Norfolknet received an e-mail from a resident expressing some thoughts on the override and school finances; with permission, I am sharing some excerpts --
    Has anyone ever thought of having just one superintendent for all three towns? Have we considered having just one principal for both schools? This must not be a new thought. But, I've been looking at salaries of Superindendents in other towns and really have to question the value of what we get for our money. We have two little schools and a Superintendent making $125k plus benefits. I don't believe the population even reaches 1,000 students. If you look at the pay in other towns/cities, number of students and many inclusive of a K thru 12 system, the pay seems high (I'm assuming a compensation analysis was done and we checked these numbers?? It's easy enough to Google the questions you want answered ... If we want to pay a superintendent that much, maybe we can put more burden on that person and reduce the number of principals. I know in Lexington last year they hired a superintendent for approx. $140K and they have approx 4400 students and a K thru 12 system.

    I think we need to look at sharing more duties between the two schools such as what they are looking at (Spanish, art, music, ...), but I think we need to go further. I think the administrative staff is also not off limits - did I hear correctly that the superintendent's office has 5 admins? In the private sector more is being asked of people - there no longer exists these large pools of secretaries, etc. With the advent of Word, we can all do our own spreadsheets and documents.

    - Wm.

  • 3/29 8:51pm   DM makes a lot of good points. I have also heard talk of other perks the superintendent received in the new contract, such as a $5000.00 signing bonus and reimbursement for gas. The fact that this was approved quietly in the midst of the Eric Matez scandal, when many parents were calling for her head on a platter, makes it more outrageous. Does the school committee have sole discretion on contract negotiations? I agree that the teachers have taken the hit too many times when it comes to making cuts. How do you look subordinates in the eye when you get a 20% raise and teachers are being laid off? I would be ashamed to do so.
    - KM

  • 3/29 8:42pm   I think MG is spot-on. We need to send a loud message to the "in our pockets groups" in town that those days are over!
    Three things we can do are: (1) Call Norfolk Town Hall now and register our firm opposition to this. (2) Take five minutes to register to vote at town hall. (3) Attend in large numbers the town meetings. The best I can tell there is little more than a handful of people pushing agendas at the meetings.
    That said, we need to be mindful that the folks in town government and the schools are doing a fine job providing the services that we do have and that they are in fact on our team. In particular, I'd say we have an outstanding Police and Fire Department.
    If [Wm] would be willing to set up a proxy mail or contact site for it, I am willing to coordinate an information group for those who want to slow this thing down until the town can find a permanent solution. Is this doable [Wm]?
    - JPB

    [Sure! I set up box30@norfolknet.com as an automatic fowarder that reaches JPB; JPB can reply to people, gauge interest and organize the group - Wm.]

  • 3/29 8:41pm   RJP, I would commend the superintendent on their negotiating skills to land such a contract. I dare say, four plus weeks, 10 sick days (accumulating), professional development time and five bereavement days is not exorbitant. Imagine pissing and moaning over how many bereavement days someone gets; jeez, haven't we better things to talk about. I have had unlimited (per occurence) bereavement days for the past 7 years at my job and have yet to use one! Much good they are doing me!! I applaud success, I &)9!!@%^ begrudgers!!!
    - GDL

  • 3/29 6:54pm   [Update 3/30 1:27pm: post listing areas where school spending could be tightened and the program improved (administration compensation, outside experts, administrative overhead, school libraries, rotating specials, new math) removed by request - Wm.]

  • 3/29 6:28pm   Did the Boomerang compare the Super's contract to a comparably sized system?
    - MJD

  • 3/29 5:37pm   If you missed the superintendent's contract, go to the library, where they store older copies of The Boomerang. I must have missed that one, so I plan on checking it out. As far as the land being cleared on Rte. 115, I was in the restaurant around the corner at lunch, and two of the architects/developers were in there saying the radio station has been approved for a 10,000 watt signal, so they're building new studios, and also dropping the talk format and picking up a rap music format.
    - JC

  • 3/29 5:08pm   I agree regarding no more overrides. As seniors, we need to watch our spending and the town does as well. If cuts need to be made in our home, they get made. The town should follow suit.
    - JHR

  • 3/29 5:07pm   JC & MG, CARE is holding School Committee Candidates Forum on April 9th from 3-4PM, it is open to public and those who can't make it they can send their questions to box29@norfolknet.com or by mail to PO Box 94, Norfolk, MA 02056.
    - TS

  • 3/29 5:06pm   Not only is the Superintendent the highest paid official, you should see the vacation, sick and "professional development" time that is in the contract. The Boomerang published the entire contract a few weeks ago. I wish I had saved it so I could give accurate numbers. As I recall the vacation was more than 4 weeks, sick time was around 2 weeks, plus it could be accumulated - you know that trick - leave or retire and then ask for a check for unused sick time. The one specific number I do remember is 5 days off for a death in the family. I've work many jobs over the years and found the standard everywhere to be 3 days.
    Someone on the school committee was quoted in the Boomerang saying her salary was in the lower 20% of supers in the state. Ok, but she is in charge of two elementary schools - K thru 6. What are the salaries of supers that have similar sized systems? There are people out there making around that but they run entire K-12 systems with more than 2 schools and thousands of students.
    - RJP

  • 3/29 1:29pm   About the CPA, the Grange is registered as a Historic site, but the Federated Church is not.
    As far as the schools, our Superintendant is now the highest paid employee of the town, and the secretary she brought with her is also now the highest paid in that position in the town. This makes the override seem more maddening when you think about it.
    - JC

  • 3/29 1:26pm   I am glad to see more postings against any more tax overrides in Norfolk. If a request for an override was to become a reality. I for one would be willing to be part of a group opposing it. I would not know where to start, but would be willing to help any way possible, be it putting a sign in front of my house or handing out leaflets. Let's show the selectmen and town officials that there is no support for any more tax overrides.
    - MG

  • 3/29 12:17am   I checked out the web site on the CPA fund and two things struck me. The fund is a 3% surcharge on our real estate tax which of course is receiving more money every time an override is voted in; so not all the override money can go toward the project to which we are voting. This money is apparently matched by the state but must be used for the following:
    -Acquisition and preservation of open space
    -Creation and support of affordable housing
    -Acquisition and preservation of historic buildings and landscapes
    A minimum of 10% of the annual revenues of the fund must be used for each of the three core community concerns. The remaining 70% can be allocated for any combination of the allowed uses, or for land for recreational use.
    Also, on the home page it states if the residents feel it is not working for them they can repeal it. Is it working? What have we used it for in the past and have there been occasion when we were spending the funds because we needed something for the town or did we just spend money we had to spend? Do we really want to have to spend 3% of the budget in these areas EVERY year? What is the alternative to the CPA fund?
    - MC

    Oops - apparently the CPA fund surcharge is not taken from 3% of the revenues received, it's actually a surcharge that each individual must pay as a percentage of your own tax bill - so every time an override is passed we must also increase the amount of surcharge money we are paying, as % is based on the tax we are paying. I believe it is listed on your tax bill as 'Comm Pres' under special assessments. So keep it in mind that we are also putting more money into this fund (in addition to our taxes, a separate surcharge) every time we vote for an override (check out the increases there too). Is this fund working for us?
    If we don't repeal it, can we reduce the % taken since we have raised our taxes so much?
    - MC

  • 3/29 12:15am   I see a lot of land clearing taking place next to the radio station on Rt. 115. Does anyone know what's going on there??
    - RP

  • 3/28 22:25pm   There is plenty of information out there about the CPA, here are some helpful links... also, I have found the members of the CPC here in town to be more than willing to answer questions about what the CPA is, and what its criteria and limitations are, plus, they meet monthly, and the meetings are public.
    Massachusetts Community Preservation Act
    Mass general laws concerning CPA
    Norfolk CPC website
    Executive office of Environmental Affairs at MA.gov
    - CG

  • 3/28 9:22pm   I'm on board with the NO MORE OVERRIDES voters. We all have expenses and limited resources. I feel horrible for the elderly and others on fixed incomes. Like all business organizations and families, the town will have to get more creative or cut back. It seems it may be time for the town to launch a more aggressive campaign to attract businesses. Ideally, ones that are a good fit with the fabric of the community. While it is unlikely provide relief now, it may 5 to 10 years out.
    - JPB

  • 3/28 9:21pm   Yes, overrides will be difficult, no doubt. Couldn't help wonder as I passed the colorful Corita gas tank in Dorchester if we could get some revenue for letting a vendor spill paint on the Town Water tank in a like artistic manner?
    What if offered Stop and Shop the privilege (at some nominal fee) of being the vendor??
    At one fell swoop the Town will get much delayed revenue and also an affirmation that they are serious in the completeion in a timely manner of the project!!!
    - JO

  • 3/28 9:20pm   Can someone explain the whole CPA fund thing to me? I remember voting for it - seemed like a nice idea at the time...but I would reconsider it in light of the recent school cuts. thanks for the info!
    - CMK

  • 3/28 9:19pm   Is the school's superintendent's salary and most recent pay raise public information? If so please post.
    - ER

  • 3/28 6:53pm   I have to agree with other previous postings. My husband and I have always supported the schools but there is no way we will vote for this override. They have had their hands out one too many times. Our personal expenses have gone through the roof but we need to find a way work within our budget. It's time the town does too. We have reached our breaking point.
    - MP

  • 3/28 4:29pm   I have to agree with those who posted that we vote NO for any more overrides. I too have voted for them in the past, but will NOT vote for another one. Enough is enough! This town has to learn to start working within a given budget and not continually come back to the citizens looking for more overrides. If it was the corporate world, either someone would be fired for not being able to manage the budget, or it would come down to layoffs.
    - PN

  • 3/28 2:53pm   SM - I vote we rescind the CPA tax. I'm done with overrides. Time to start laying off people.
    P.S. Anyone know if the Town is paying to have Rt. 115 paved again? I saw an outside contractor grinding up the road (less than a half year old) and assumed something was wrong. I wonder what was wrong and why it needed to be redone.
    - LS

  • 3/28 2:27pm   I am not sure I would want to live in a town with excellent schools and no historical focus. There can be a balance if people are willing to work together.
    - JR

  • 3/28 2:02pm   Under state law, the $335,000 of CPA Funds proposed to be spent on the privately owned Grange Hall cannot be used to fund an override. Over $2.5 million of our hard-earned money have gone to fund the CPA, yet at the same time we have insufficient funds in the general budget and face annual overrides and soaring property taxes. It would help take pressure off the general budget if the CPA funds were used prudently to fund public projects earmarked to be funded from the general budget. Instead the CPA is being used to fund projects that benefit special interest groups like the Grange Hall. With a nice new building funded by Norfolk taxpayers, I am sure the Grange Hall will be able to rent out the building for functions at much higher rental rates. All in the name of "Community Preservation".
    - SM

  • 3/28 12:50pm   I apologize if I missed this and the info was already posted but:
    1) What is the $300,000 - $350,000 proposed for the Grange going to be spent on? Can someone please provide the list of projects and how that figure was determined?
    2) I've seen comments that the Grange was privately owned? Who owns it?
    Any insights would be helpful.
    - DTB

  • 3/28 12:05pm   Is the town going to have the street sweeper clean the streets, or do you have to call and request that your street needs it? Thanks,
    - PP

  • 3/28 12:04pm   We have always voted for the schools, but find that our real estate taxes are so high now with everything we have funded that we will vote against the next proposed override. How about this nice raise that our superintendent just received... maybe some of her raise should go to keeping the Spanish teacher that we voted for a few years back? I also agree that the money the town is thinking of using for the Grange should be allocated appropriately - to the schools and the roads.
    - EP

  • 3/28 10:56am   Priorities are needed! I understand the reasoning behind helping to fund historic buildings, but why are we talking about giving 300K+ to the Grange when almost the same amount is being requested in another override or else we will make more cuts at the schools. How about we take this 300K we seem to have for the Grange and give it to the schools. Let the people vote for an override to give money to the Grange and see how that comes out.
    - MC

  • 3/28 8:13am   JHR, Norfolk Recreation has not received any complaints or concerns about the walking path at the Pond St. Complex. Enjoy your walk.
    - Todd P Chisholm, Norfolk Recreation

  • 3/28 8:12am   RJP, re: If the porta-potty company knocked the shed off its footings at the Pond Street fields why exactly is the Norfolk DPW fixing it? Are we being reimbursed?
    The shed/sheds at the Pond St. filed would not have been knocked off the footings if they had footing that were in line with the building code. Four foot deep and the shed/sheds would be fastened to them. At present, they sit on blocks and are unstable. A real concern may be if a ball should roll under one of them and a very small child crawls under to retrieve it...
    - BF

  • 3/28 1:22am   I have spent the last two hours reading all about the town I've lived in for the past 35 years. Some things never change, like the moonscape. Well, maybe not quite 35 years. This is an interesting and useful venue for Norfolk residents.
    My question involves the walking path around the Pond Street Recreational facility. I'm a Senior and a bit reluctant to go there. Basically, I'm asking whether there have been any complaints or concerns regarding safety. Thank you.
    - JHR

  • 3/27 7:13pm   I posted an item a while back about receiving my 3 Excise Tax bills in one mailing and wondering why we couldn't save some town money by putting them in one envelope. Jack Hathaway looked into this in depth. His analysis is posted on the Answers to FAQ' s page on the town web site, [here]
    He did, in fairness, really dig into this one. Nothing is as simple as it appears. Oh well - let's keep looking for savings - we're really going to need them.
    Just some other musings -
    - If the porta-potty company knocked the shed off its footings at the Pond Street fields why exactly is the Norfolk DPW fixing it? Are we being reimbursed?
    - If a resident or group of residents wanted to write up a mailing about not supporting an override would the schools send them home in the kids' backpacks? (See posting 3/24 2:28pm)
    - 10+ years ago when the Norfolk Little League needed a concession stand and storage space near the Babe Ruth and Football fields they paid for it and volunteers built it. Have we gotten so lazy that no one wants to work anymore? Up until then there were not even porta-potties at the fields. Yes, they're gross, but it beats a trip to the woods.
    - As far as the CPC and the Grange Hall / Federated Church - If a building is on the historic register it should be considered for help. It's not a church vs. state issue or a private group / Protestant / Catholic thing. When St. Jude's is on the register, they too could ask for all the money they want. They had a historic building in the center of town - the old Rectory - where the Sovereign Bank is now which was torn down in the darkness of night without permits and hauled to the town dump. It was cheaper to pay the fines than do it by the rules.
    - Speaking of the dump - I was on the old "Dump Committee" with Charlie Jerome years ago. Yes, he was a thorn in the Selectmen's and Highway Dept.'s side. He was cantankerous (think I spelled it correctly !!), he was a democrat. I heard his fascinating stories of WW2 hundreds of times but he always had the best interests of this town in his heart. Sometimes when I'm ranting to my wife about local issues she smiles and says "You sound like Charlie Jerome". I can live with that.
    - RJP

  • 3/27 3:16pm   To SM, Thank you for your post. A manager is only as good as his/her crew. I am very lucky to have a hard working and dedicated crew. The three men who work with me on the Grounds Div. have a strong commitment to the town. It makes my job that much easier. You don't always hear about a job well done. Usually, you only hear the negatives. The responses to my post have been much appreciated. Thanks again!
    - Tom Benedetti / Foreman, Grounds Maintenance Div., Norfolk D.P.W.

  • 3/27 3:16pm   Get to know your School Committee candidates at the CARE Candidates' Forum on Sunday, April 9 from 3 - 4:30 in the Norfolk Public Library, Community Room.
    CARE announces a special, nonpartisan forum specifically for School Committee candidates who are running in the upcoming, contested election. All candidates for School Committee have been invited. If you are a candidate considering a "write in" campaign and you'd like to participate, please contact CARE. The forum is open to the public and we are hoping for a good turnout. For those unable to attend, the CARE forum will be taped for NCTV.
    The CARE Candidates' Forum provides for a specific focus on School Committee candidates. To encourage community participation, the format has been designed to include questions that reflect the pulse of Norfolk and to complement the Norfolk Community League's Candidate's Night on Monday, April 10. CARE welcomes any Norfolk residents and teachers and all interested parties - including school aged children - to submit the questions they want the School Committee candidates to answer. Please make sure we receive your questions by Friday, April 7 by sending them to CARE's email: box29@norfolknet.com or by mail: Box 94, Norfolk MA 02056.
    CARE is Citizens committed to Accountability and Reliability in Education for our Norfolk Children. Our primary mission is to offer a supportive resource, forum, and voice in the management of our schools to parents and the community.
    - CAM

  • 3/27 12:06pm   The Un-Common Theatre Company announces its "Young Performers Company's" production of "Cinderella's Glass Slipper". The musical show is presented by a talented cast of 32 local actors in Grades 1-6.
    "Cinderella's Glass Slipper" is the story of Cinderella (Megan Harney of Mansfield) who works hard in the home of her cruel stepmother (Emily Garven of Norfolk). Her silly stepsisters (Ashley Goverman of Mansfield and Stephanie Berenson of Sharon) see themselves as beautiful and think the prince will marry them. Of course, the handsome prince (Johnny Fullerton of Mansfield) spends most of the palace ball trying to escape from them!
    Other cast members include: From Norfolk, MA: Maddie Myers (Majordoma) and Caroline Tomsik (Troubadour 2).
    Show dates are Friday April 7th at 7:30pm, Saturday April 8th at 2pm and Sunday, April 9th at 2pm at Qualters Middle School, 240 East St, Mansfield, MA. For Tickets call Brown Paper Tickets 24/7 at (800) 838-3006 or order online at brownpapertickets.com
    [Additional details in the full press release [here]]
    - JG

  • 3/27 11:53am   RG-Maybe I wasn't clear, wasn't complaining, didn't think I needed to spell it out but here goes... If you want a say in how the CPA money is spent, attend the Town Meeting!
    - MJD

    [To limit confusion, I should note that two people have posted recently, both with initials RG - Wm.]

  • 3/27 11:52am   CPC can be earmarked for historic purposes, but it's up to us, the residents who are the taxpayers, to decide how our CPA tax dollars should be spent. The CPC committee should be putting forth projects that will benefit all residents, not select special interest groups. Spending public tax dollars on restoring buildings used and owned by special interest groups is not a good use of public tax dollars. If we can't spend these funds more prudently, we should revoke the CPA and the tax surcharge.
    - SM

  • 3/27 11:38am   I was disappointed when we gave the $35K +/- to the Federated, and when I first heard about the $350K +/- for the Grange I was appalled. But there are ways to make the deal a lot more palatable.
    First, we should certainly insist on a historic preservation restriction on the exterior of the building. I've been told that's a part of the deal already, and it's important to ensure that we get to keep one of the few historically significant buildings in town in its historic condition. I don't think we got an explicit restriction on the Federated, but I recall reading somewhere that could be implied from our contribution of public money.
    Second, and I believe this has been negotiated as well, but we should get a right of first refusal to purchase the building should it ever go up for sale, with our $350K investment counting against the offer price.
    The Grange is an important link to our past in Norfolk. One of the reasons we don't have a lot of the old historic buildings that many other towns have is that we were a little rural farming community. This is one of those buildings, it would be a shame to lose it.
    And about the trees on Medway Branch. I haven't been down Medway Branch in a while, so I have no idea what they're doing, but in typical fashion it's probably an over-engineered, too wide road with gigantic sidewalks which could've been a cinder-based sidewalk which wound its way along existing trees. Being a farming community, our most interesting trees tend to be in the right-of-ways, as they were the ones you didn't cut down when plowing a field. Not to be a total tree-hugger, but this antipathy toward nature is getting a litte out of hand.
    - RG

  • 3/27 10:41am   AR, it is going to be more like Medway Branch Speedway!! A footpath would have been perfect but some people like to destroy the reasons we moved to this town in the first place. If you want wide boulevards go back!
    - JT

  • 3/27 10:40am   You should not have to show up to town meetings to enforce separation of church and state. It is what it is, "separation of church and state." Does it really need to be explained in detail.
    - DWL

  • 3/27 10:23am   To those who are complaining about the use of the CPA funds for the Federated Church and the Grange, if you looked at the criteria for a building receiving those funds, you would see that one of the designations of CPA monies is for historic purposes. The Grange, and the Federated Church, are both on the registry as historic buildings, so they did not get the money because they were privately owned buildings, or because they knew someone on the board, or they just wanted money and figured that this was an easy way to get it -- they got it because they met the criteria as historic!! You need to read, and understand what the CPC is, what the funds are for, and what qualifies and what doesn't before you start making uninformed comments against it.
    Also, the Federated Church did have a HUGE show of force at the Town meeting... all 14 of them! I know, because I counted them. I am sure there are more than 14 people in this town who didn't want to see the church get that money, so where were they at the town meeting? It's not like this stuff is any big huge secret, or conspiracy. It's public record, and it is put to town vote, only the majority of the town doesn't get out there and attend so they might actually make a difference, or get/not get what they want. I guess it's so much easier to sit home and complain.
    - RG

  • 3/27 10:22am   Farewell to our beloved Charlie (Jerome) and deepest sympathies to his family and close friends. For many of us his active participation in town meetings symbolized what "small-town" democracy is all about. He will be missed.
    - TEM

  • 3/27 9:16am   JT, it could have been worse -- every one of those trees lining the road was marked for removal, from end to end. There was some amount of resistance to this, resulting in one of the mature pines and some of the younger woods being spared near the Boardman end.
    It seems to be more than just sidewalks, but a preference for new, redesigned roads. A lot of those stumps look like they're making way for yet another road "realignment." I counted 80 growth rings on one of those pines before the sap blocked the view, with two more inches to go at 1/10 in. ring spacing.
    My preference would have been for an unassuming little asphalt path winding among the trees, then jammed right against the road. You know, city-like, not subdivision-like. But think of the lovely granite curbing, perfect for slicing my tire open again. No, no trees like that lining Medway Branch until, say, 2090.
    Given the wide, straight highway that's going in, I suggest we rename the new, improved road "Transfer Station Boulevard."
    - AR

  • 3/27 8:57am   I see we have created another Moonscape, this time on Medway Branch Road. Do we not like trees in this town? I know we are building a sidewalk, which is needed, but do we have to take out all of those great shade trees? What is wrong with a foot path, we are a small community and a road as wide as the train bridge is just too much for that area.
    - JT

  • 3/27 8:40am   To Tom Bendetti, Norfolk DPW -
    Tom,
    We have lived in Norfolk for twelve years and when we first moved to town the athletic fields were in terrible shape. I don't know how long you have been in charge, but we noticed a marked improvement to the condition of the fields a few years ago. The kids used to be playing on dirt and weeds; now they play on finely manicured lush grass. We are impressed that you are able to bring the grass back to life each year after two tough sporting seasons and winter. You have done a great job at improving the condition of the Pond Street facility. So thank you to you and your staff for all the hard work and service to Norfolk! You are a great groundskeeper!
    - SM

  • 3/27 8:38am   EC-I think you hit the nail on the head. Since many of us don't attend town meeting, all a group has to do to make sure that their project gets the thumbs up (Like the Fed. Church or the Grange) at town meeting is get as many members to the meeting as possible. Some will object, but the group that stacks the meeting will carry the day. If residents are really serious about stopping the $300K from going to the Grange, they need to show up in force and speak up. I doubt that people will come out to stop it, but they can't complain later unless they show up.
    - MJD

  • 3/27 8:37am   PA-I ventured into the "park," it appears to be two benches in the woods with a really nice sign, announcing that it is a park. I was informed by another Norfolknet reader that it was created for the Bicentennial in 1976.
    - MJD

  • 3/27 8:11am   To EC & PA - I'm not a member of the Federated Church. I'm not a member of any church for that matter. But I was not against the use of public funds to paint the church.
    The Federated Church is a symbol of the "Old New England Town." It's one of the first buildings that people see when they come into town. It's a part of New England history. That old New England "flavor" is what many people mention when asked what made them choose Norfolk as their home. Proper maintenance of such a visible symbol not only shows pride in our town's history, it adds to the desirability of real estate in this town. In other words, it's certainly not hurting our property values!
    - JD

  • 3/26 10:33pm   Is there organized baseball in or around Norfolk for 4-year-olds? I saw the link to norfolkbaseball.com, but that claims to be for ages 6 and over. I never played until I was 8, but I hear they start younger these days, and my son would love it... (Other sports/activities, too?)
    - SJP

  • 3/26 10:31pm   To EC: Great point on the Grange. A private club with limited use, and they want that kind of money. As we all know, the Federated Church has received money. I'd like to see how St. Jude's can get money. Norfolk residents are in that building EVERY day.
    On another note, what exactly is the "BiCentennial Park" on Rte. 115? I noticed the sign for the first time today, but it hardly looks like a park.
    - PA

  • 3/26 9:26pm   This is to inform residents that Charles Jerome, a long time resident, veteran, and a participant in public affairs passed away Saturday. The Collection Center [Trasnfer Station] is named in honor of Mr. Jerome. Visiting Hours are scheduled for 4-8 pm Monday- 3/27 at Delaneys, Common St., Walpole, with a Funeral Service 10 am on Tuesday.
    Mr. Jerome was Infantry veteran who saw hard fighting in Italy during WW2 and used to visit the schools to pass some of the experiences to younger people.
    Mr. Jerome was a member of the Norfolk American Legion Post # 335 for years.
    Thank You,
    - John Olivieri, Norfolk Graves Offficer / Norfolk American Legion Post #335 member

  • 3/26 8:19pm   The fisher cat's cry sounds as if a young child or children were being tortured. I heard this one night a couple of years ago and raced to make sure my daughter was alright. I have heard it since and it makes your blood run like ice water.
    - JW

  • 3/26 7:50pm   For sale - 1 ticket to Coldplay, Verizon Arena, NH on 4-3-06. Seat is FLOOR Sec 6 Row B seat 3. Cost is $90.00. I have this ticket in hand and it's from Ticketmaster. Face value was $76.00 with service charge and handling it came to 90.00. Please call.... 528-0555.
    - KO

  • 3/26 6:25pm   I am amazed that the town of Norfolk has funded the renovation and maintenance of privately owned buildings. First the Federated Church, and now the Grange. In the case of the church, a number of people spoke about their opposition at Town Meeting. Church members were out in force and voted in the funding.
    Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? I would bet that the "silent majority" of taxpayers would not have chosen to set this very bad precedent. It would not stand up to scrutiny.
    Now based on the success of public funding for privately owned buildings, the Grange is asking for funds to renovate. Where does the revenue go for rentals of the building? Maybe the Grange should have a fund-raiser to pay for their renovations like other organizations.
    If the town has excess funds, I would be willing to have my home painted at taxpayers' expense.
    - EC

  • 3/26 1:26pm   Set of KEYS FOUND - Anyone lost a set or know someone who lost a set near the corner of Medway Branch and Barnstable this past week... The ring has a truck key, some house and utility keys and an MDI CPR Microshield pouch attached.
    I found them while jogging by there. Call Tom at 528-7012.
    - ATF

  • 3/26 1:26pm   Thanks BH. I've seen the building department's requirements for building a shed. I'm looking for someone to install the footings. I guess I'll check the yellow pages.
    - SES

  • 3/26 11:49am   Does anyone know of a carpenter who would replace (fully replace) windows for us. We have the windows picked out and the measurements are accurate - just want to find someone who will do a high quality job replacing the windows and finishing with new trim. Thanks so much.
    - JG

  • 3/26 11:48am   What kind of noise does the Fisher Cat make? Heard some odd cries last night.
    - CI

  • 3/26 11:47am   I asked my 5th grader about hair in the food at F-C, and he just gave me a puzzled look... my take is that this is like the myth of the bouncing F-C hot dog.
    For "real" issues - what about the total elimination of library and health instruction, and the cutback of Art & Spanish programs to 1/2 year only?? I saw a quote by the superintendent (in the Boomerang) that Spanish may be cut altogether - despite the fact that an overide was passed a few years back to specifically fund that program. There have to be other, non-instructional, expenses to cut.
    - CI

  • 3/26 10:15am   KF, I believe the hair in the food at Freeman is an urban legend. This rumor has been going around for many, many years. We have a right to criticize when appropriate, but let us focus on the real issues!!
    - DWL

  • 3/26 10:14am   WOW! Just saw a fisher cat loping galumping through our yard and across Boardman St., toward Gump's (6:30 a.m.). S/he was about 2-2 1/2 feet long with the tail, which was full and brushlike at the base but tapering toward the tip. It reminded me of a cross between a woodchuck and a large housecat. I've heard it at night but have never seen it. Hopefully it wasn't dining on my neighbor's cats.
    - HPK

  • 3/26 10:13am   I would like to give a gracious thanks for everything the Recreation Dept. does. I must add they do it quite well. Some of us really appreciate your work.
    - DWL

  • 3/26 10:11am   Re: 3/25 5:57pm I'm looking for someone to install footings so I can build a shed. Does anyone have any recommendations? - SES
    See the Building Department FAQ at [this page]:
    Is a permit required for the construction of a SHED?

    Sheds over 120 sq.ft. (10'x12') require a building permit (see permit procedures). A shed must be on footings at least 10" in diameter and 4' in the ground and must meet State Building Code requirements for construction. Zoning requires it to be at least the same distance from grade level to the median of the roof from the side and rear lot lines and 50' set back from the front lot line. Sheds under 120 sq. ft. do not require a building permit but must meet the above zoning setback requirements.

    Check with the Building Department for further information and possible footing installers, if needed.
    - BH

  • 3/25 7:57pm   To SB: I believe that Medfield Properties in Medfield Center has the listing for Norfolk Center Condominiums.
    - AF

  • 3/25 7:56pm   Re: Todd - thanks for your comments - keep up the GREAT work! We love the Rec. Dept.!
    - CMK

  • 3/25 7:52pm   I listened to a group of reliable eleven year olds recently discuss how they count the pieces of hair in their lunch at the F/C School! They stated that spaghetti day is particularly disgusting. I could not believe this conversation and confirmed that their conversation was indeed true. They said that the "lunch ladies" wear gloves, but only one wears a hair net. Where are the hair nets for our entire cafeteria staff serving food? Isn't this a state law? How often is the school inspected by the health department? Is there a staff person in charge of sanitation/food safety or does our board of health deal with these issues? Has the shortage of funds affected our cafeteria too? It appears my son will be brown-bagging it from now on! A great big YUCK!
    - KF

  • 3/25 6:00pm   In response to DC below (3/24 9:48am), I'm no lawyer either, but I think we'd have a hard time convincing a judge that downtown Norfolk is "blighted", even if Stop and Shop, and their proxy development company is just landbanking - which is holding up the other development that has been proposed and received at least initial permits. (The lots next to the library and town hall have been through some of the required permitting for, among other things, a drug store with a drive through.)
    Taking land just because one form of development is preferable to another is a slippery slope. My house and your house are a drain on the town, taxes-wise (as long as we have two kids), but I don't want some selectman running around grabbing it from me just to build a Starbucks or Hollywood Video.
    There is actually one interesting benefit to the town center being underdeveloped so long (I remember courting my-then girlfriend and now wife of 12 years when she worked at the drycleaners and I'd spend afternoons hanging out with her and looking at the trees that pre-dated the lovely moonscape we have today). While we had a decent downtown zoning from back in the 1980s (especially compared with what other towns were doing in the '80s), recent changes have been made to allow the kind of mixed use development which will produce, if we ever get a developer with the desire to move, small scale retail and services, along with hopefully the kind of housing that a young person -- our kids fresh from college or just married -- could move into and afford before they have kids and get their 43,000 square foot mcmansion in one our our tree-less subdivisions. Had it been developed 15 or 20 years ago, we could've ended up with more of the same as the Wayside or McLaughlin buildings. That's all well and good, but there's only so much of that a town like Norfolk can support.
    The best town centers grew up over the years, with their eclectic mixes of uses and styles being the product of different developers at different times. The town has made a significant investment in the center in the past three or four years, and the Borelli development on the hill should act as a catalyst to get some other lots moving. This is a great time for town and transit centered development in Massachusetts, and Eastern is literally throwing their money away sitting on the land like they have. It's unfortunate, but, hey -- you know how slow and wasteful the private sector can be (he says sarcastically)...
    - RG

  • 3/25 5:59pm   Here's an idea to raise revenues that I have been thinking about. You pay the MBTA for the train stopping in Norfolk. It doesn't make sense to me that Norfolk has to pay this. Also, Norfolk doesn't collect (I think) money for any of the parking spots for commuters. You do own the roads leading to the parking lots. How about toll gates to enter the roads to get to the lots. If you charge a dollar per car per day I bet you could raise a few dollars. Norfolk residents could get a speed pass so they wouldn't have to pay. I see every week how many out of town cars come into Norfolk to use the T. Just a thought!
    - TB

  • 3/25 5:57pm   I'm looking for someone to install footings so I can build a shed. Does anyone have any recommendations?
    - SES

  • 3/25 5:28pm   Does anyone have a suggestion of a place my daughter can take art lessons? I am looking for something that is not arts and crafts. She is only 5 years old and would really love to do this. Thanks,
    - DL

  • 3/25 5:24pm   WB, After being advised that you have expressed some strong feelings towards "Norfolk Recreation" and you have posted these feelings on Norfolknet, I feel obligated to address your comments. I'm not usually one to get into a war of words, but as "Chairman" of the Recreation Commission, I feel that the comments you have made towards "Recreation" are unwarranted and unfair. Let me list some of your comments and then I will reply to each one. In closing I will then mention some additional information concerning "Norfolk Recreation".
    3/23 4:24pm I think I keep up to date on Town on-goings, and as you stated, that there is support by many people of a Rec Building on the Pond Street Complex - I just don't see it, nor have I heard it. What I have experienced and heard is a small group of very vocal people that feel Recreation deserves to get money from the CPA - good, bad or indifferent. I would say that the attitude is a sense of entitlement. Is the Rec Commission doing their homework? I don't know, I just can't seem to get past what seems like whining. - WB
    If what you state is true and there is only a "small group" of very vocal people that feel that Recreation deserve to get money from the CPA then stop worrying about it. From the sampling of emails I have seen on Norfolknet, I would say there is a much "larger group". As far as your comment about entitlement, I would reply be saying that by how the CPA guidelines have been defined, Recreation has an "entitlement" to a portion of these funds. Recreation falls in the 10% portion of funds that by law are required to be allocated to "Open Space/Recreation". The laws also states an additional 10% is allocated to "Affordable Housing", 10% for "Conservation", leaving a remaining 70% that can be spent on anything that is proposed within the guidelines. So Recreation is entitled to request funds from the remaining 70% that is available also.
    I do not understand your comments about Recreation Commission doing their homework. We have a representative on the CPC that is more then qualified and up to date on the issues. Additionally we discuss this topic at all our meetings that are published and open to the public.
    I'm not sure why you seem to think we are whining. The "Recreation Commission" has made very few public comments about our feelings. When the "Boomerang" came to our last "open" meeting and asked us for comments, we replied that we were disappointed with the outcome of the CPC vote that turned down our request. If you consider that whining, then I guess your tolerance level is quite low. Other then those comments we haven't said much further. If you feel differently please advise.
    3/23 4:24pm If the Rec Commission would just stick to the facts and not make this an emotional and personal issue, I truly believe that their proposal would get farther along. - WB
    Again, you reference keeping to the facts and now mention not making it an emotional and personal issue. What facts are you talking about? We haven't commented on it so there really are no facts. Also please explain how we are making it emotional and personal when no one is commenting on it. Is that a personal opinion or do you have facts to back it up?
    3/24 11:49am I offer the following simplistic example of why, at this time, I would not support the construction of a Rec Building with CPA funds or otherwise. A previous post on Norfolknet noted about the listing shed on Pond Street Complex. Whether or not the Rec Commission is responsible for this structure or not, they are the care takers of the fields. I view this as a good gauge of the level of commitment in the investment of a new Rec Building and how it would be taken care of. I drive by Pond Street at least two or three times a week and this shed has been leaning for months. If there has been no corrective action for a shed that cost a few thousand dollars, I have a hard time justifying a half million (or more) investment in a building. - WB
    I assume you have read the comments by Tom Benedetti (Foreman, grounds Maint. Div/Norfolk/D.P.W.) and probably now understand why the shed was not corrected. I'm sorry to hear you make decisions without finding out all the facts first. We at "Norfolk Recreation" not only appreciate the work Tom and his crew do, but applaud it and the decisions he makes concerning the upkeep of the grounds. We have some of the nicest fields around. Visiting towns compliment us every time they come to our complex and play at our fields. At our "Field Allocation" meetings we hold prior to each season we actually have many requests from surrounding towns to utilize our fields. They claim we have some of the best fields in the area. They always comment that our upkeep is superior. Those meetings are open to the public also if you would like to attend and hear those comments. Additionally these surrounding towns pay a fee to play on our fields. Those fees go to support the upkeep.
    My additional comments can be found below.
    I have been happy to serve on Norfolk Recreation for over 5 years. When I moved to this town 5 years ago, I decided to run for the Recreation Commission position for a number of reasons. I have strong feelings about being pro-active, contributing and giving back. I additionally think it is a great example to my 4 children that people should get involved. I knew very few people in this town when I moved here and figured it was also a great way to meet people. I believe I have accomplished my goals and truly believe that Norfolk Recreation is by far the best "Recreation Organization" in the area. We are a group of volunteers who truly volunteer our time for the town of Norfolk. We have a full-time Director and a part-time Assistant Director that work tirelessly to develop programming and opportunities for our town. With the exception of their salaries, we are a self-funding organization that does not add any tax burden to the town. All the brochures that the town receives with numerous programs and activities are all self-funded by our revolving account. Our revolving account is fully funded by the money we bring on from our programs. In the 5 years I have been on the "Commission" we have contributed to this town in so many ways it is unbelievable. I will list some things and projects we have done just in the past couple of years. So when I see or hear comments talking negatively about "Norfolk Recreation" I tend to get upset. I welcome your comments and suggestions at any of our public meetings, but please try not to speak poorly about our organization in public. I haven't even gotten into the facts about why we were trying to have a building built at Pond St. The only comment I will make is that there will be limited places to run our great programs if down the road (as has been discussed) the "Old Town Hall" building goes away.
    A small sampling of things Norfolk Recreation has done or helped lead for the town (at no cost to the town)
    • Bought spectator benches for both Pond St and Freeman fields.
    • Built and purchased "Skatepark" at Pond St.
    • Bought entire youth playground at Pond St.
    • Bought soccer nets for our town soccer programs.
    • Installed safety netting behind the soccer field to avoid balls going in street.
    • Installed safety netting behind baseball diamonds to avoid balls going in the street.
    • Purchased multiple trash cans for both Pond St and Freeman fields.
    • Fund "Portable Bathrooms" for Pond St., Freeman, and "Kid's Place".
    • Purchased a batting cage for baseball.
    • Bought storage sheds for Pond St. and Freeman.
    • Funded work and supplies for all playgrounds in town.
    • Offer "Free" concert series in town.
    • Made financial contribution to rebuild the "Major League" baseball field.
    • Made financial contribution to skin/rebuild the softball field.
    • Developed a sponsorship program to secure funds for Pond St. maintenance.
    • Supplied fencing on numerous fields.
    • Purchased and installed "Shade" trees at Pond St.
    • Had a "water bubbler" installed at Pond St.
    • Installed a "Shade Structure" with CPC Funds at Pond St.
    • Purchased and installed "Wind Screens" at the tennis courts.
    • Purchased safety signs for Freeman School driveway.
    • Made financial contributions to the schools.
    • Held dances/activities for the youth.
    • Purchased "Christmas Lights" for the "Town Hill.
    • Offer an Easter Egg Hunt annually.
    I guess I could go on and on, but I think I have made my point. Norfolk Recreation is proud of all we have done for the town. We are happy to volunteer our time for the sole purpose of developing programs and projects for the town. We will continue to do this regardless of a selected few people's opinions.
    We are always looking for volunteers with other great ideas or support. Attend a meeting if you are interested.
    Sorry for the long reply, but I'm passionate about what we do!!!!
    - Todd P. Chisholm, Chairman of Norfolk Recreation

  • 3/25 5:15pm   OK.... enough is enough with the requests for tax overrides! What is happening in our town is the reason that Prop 2 1/2 was created. The cities and towns must learn to operate within a budget!! The town must live within its means as we (citizens) must. Our own "operating costs" at home have also gone up (heat, electricity, fuel for our cars etc...) but we can not go to our employers and ask for an override to help make ends meet. We must go without or use Reserves saved (if that is possible).
    The article in the Boomerang stated that the town would have to use the road repair override money if another override is not passed. Which goes to show, overrides that are not specifically marked for only one reason are a poor idea in the first place. In my opinion use the road fund, the roads are fair to poor all around town anyway.
    I have supported the school building overrides in the past, but I will not support another override. The new school buildings have a positive impact on property values in town, a high tax rate and no services for that tax rate will discourage educated home buyers from wanting to buy in Norfolk. The result being property values not being as strong as we would like.
    As usual, the schools are being used as an excuse for the override. If we keep approving the overrides, they will never stop asking. We must stop this tax override talk now!
    - MG

  • 3/25 5:09pm   MJC: Regarding the latest request for another tax override - it's horrifying enough that we are seeing yet more threats against our kids' education. But to see yet another hand out for another override within such a short period has to have more of you frustrated (especially those of you who can't sell their houses). I do not believe that our current assessments have actually been updated with all the overrides to which we have already voted yes. Is it too unreasonable for the town to be required to include all the previous overrides on our assessments before requesting another override so that each individual can make an informed decision regarding our own budgets? It seems to me that the town should know they are asking too often when the overrides are overlapping. Isn't there some other way to raise money if we think creatively? Is anyone else questioning the creativity and priorities of the town leadership here?
    It's frustrating because it just seems that at the first sign of trouble the hand is out? It's even more horrifying that it's always the kids constantly under attack; are our kids our last priority? Why are we not shifting money from elsewhere and making cuts in other programs with less priority? Is anyone else with me?
    - MC

  • 3/25 8:50am   Re. NCTV funding and whether our taxes are used to operate it, the answer is no, no tax money is involved. See updates to the post of 3/24 6:23pm) for the details.
    - Wm.

  • 3/24 9:33pm   Does anyone know the contact information for the condos being built on the moonscape? Listing realtor, price, availability, etc...Thanks!
    - SB

    [That's unkind, calling it The Moonscape... Call it by its proper name, Pebble Hill! :-) (...unkind to the moon, I mean :-) - Wm.]

  • 3/24 8:25pm   In response to all of the people filing complaints about the Pond Street complex and its upkeep, I feel it should be mentioned that this facility has gotten rave reviews from all visiting towns for sporting events that our complex is one of the best . People who do nothing proactive for this town have plenty to say behind the scenes; why not step up and help us out. Tom Benedetti and his limited crew work very hard on the upkeep of our grounds all around town, most towns have at least double the number of workers. I have been on the Recreation Department for two years and feel we have accomplished quite a bit in this town for the benefit of all residents in this town to enjoy.
    Before we rip apart people and organizations for any wrongdoing, why not get the facts right before any damaging thoughts get you in trouble. Just like any organization or town committee, there are only a handful of actual workers and doers. The rest always sit back and find fault of the minor issues at hand. It's time to stop the nonsense and become a little more responsible for improving the great future of this town called Norfolk!!
    - Don Owen, member of Norfolk Recreation Committee

  • 3/24 8:23pm   To MJD: When we moved to Norfolk almost 2 years ago I did do a cost analysis based on the maximum amount of trash that Dover Trucking and BFI would pick up and compared it to what it would cost to dispose of that amount at the town dump. It actually turned out to be just about even. So we went with Dover Trucking and I can't recommend them highly enough. They are pleasant and friendly and return calls right away.
    - AF

  • 3/24 8:21pm   To AL: Definitely try craigslist.com. I saw car seats being offered by somebody in Norfolk today when I was looking for something else. The Police Department does do installations for you too.
    - AF

  • 3/24 6:23pm   NCTV is non-profit (from what I read) - however, I must ask - does any tax money go to them? What is their budget? If tax money does go to them, is a community cable TV station worth having in Norfolk if our school's children are about to lose their language, library, health and art programs?
    - CK

    [I thought the NCTV is funded by Comcast, not the town. - Wm.
    Update 9:26pm: It has been explained to me that Comcast's contract with the town obligates them to pass on a portion of the subscription revenues (5% was mentioned) to produce and operate the community access channels. - Wm.]
    [Update 3/25 8:45am: Federal and State law requires Public, Educational, and Government (PEG) Access TV as a part of the local Cable franchise. Ref Section 611 of the Cable Act, 47 U.S.C. 531, and others, plus Mass General Laws Ch. 166A. No Norfolk tax money is used to support NCTV. The cablecasts of the Selectmen and school committee have been particularly useful in showing the difficult jobs those people have. NCTV relies on a lot of volunteer help in producing its programs. - BH]

  • 3/24 6:20pm   I guess it's time for me to join the discussion about the Pond St. rec shed. The shed was knocked off its perch by the truck that removed the Portatoilet. I didn't see this happen, but it didn't take long to figure it out. Yes, it stayed tilted for a while because of the wet condition of that area. I needed to drive the front end loader with forks over that area and wanted to make sure it was dried out. As you can see, we did take care of this issue. We (The Grounds Maintenance Division) take great pride in maintaining the fields, not only at Pond St. but also at the Freeman/Centennial school. We are responsible for maintaining over 75 acres of green space such as the fields, all municipal bldgs, two cemeteries, roadside trees, etc. Four full time town employees do this. At times, it may take us a little while to respond to issues because of our workload, but we ALWAYS respond. To use the tilted shed as an example of the commitment of the caretakers is unfair. I think the Rec. Commission does an excellent job, and you can't get anyone more dedicated and hard-working than Ann Proto. I think the answer everyone is looking for lies with the state. Why not put this CPA funding issue in their lap and see what they say.
    - Tom Benedetti, Foreman, Grounds Maint. Div. / Norfolk D.P.W.

  • 3/24 5:52pm   I am a huge fan of taking the moonscape and doing something with it. I have been in town over 20 years and I cannot believe we still have this miscarriage going on. Come on people, we live in this town because we choose to, why let the center look like something from Apocalypse Now?
    - JT

  • 3/24 3:56pm   To WB: Please stick to fact. The shed at Pond St was knocked off its perch by someone or a group, it did not magically move on its own. It was out of position for a period of weeks not months, it was again put back on its perch when it was clear enough and frozen enough so that a machine could be brought in there to lift it and not tear up the field in the process. This is the care and quality I like to see for our precious few sports fields in town. Btw I am all for funding for a concession/storage facility, like any other town in the 21st century.
    - JG

  • 3/24 2:48pm   SJP: someone has alot of 'splainin to do. I recall the selectmen saying if we passed the override last year, this would allow us to build up our reserves. Now I know everything has gone up, healthcare not the least of it, but we're in dire straits already? Can someone direct us to some real numbers, what we are looking at, before the April 4 public hearing? Thank you.
    - AL

  • 3/24 2:28pm   Can someone please explain to me the letter we got from the schools yesterday on the potential layoffs if we don't pass another override? One of the people is a Spanish teacher. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't we pass an override a couple of years ago to implement Spanish specifically in the Norfolk schools? If we say yes to that and fund it how can they say we need yet another override so she doesn't get laid off? There should be money already slotted for Spanish. No?
    - JGP

  • 3/24 1:40pm   WB, Building a 3,000 foot building on the Pond Street facility to house equipment and concessions, etc., is NOT similar to building a gym or stadium. This is a support building for recreational fields that will house equipment. This murky legal argument provides convenient cover for the CPA committee to reject a proposal that will benefit a majority of Norfolk residents while approving funding of projects that do not benefit the taxpayer but special interest groups. This is not just and we will seek to revoke the CPA if the funds are not spent in a more responsible way. Every decision/action made today expose towns and businesses to a certain degree of legal risk. We need smart town leadership that understands how to manage risk and move forwards with well-thought out game plan. It's always easier and safer for bureaucrats to just say no.
    - SM

  • 3/24 11:52am   [Post about NCTV having to vacate its F-C premises removed by request - Wm.]

  • 3/24 11:49am   SM - I'm not doubting that a "lot of Norfolk residents that take their kids to the Pond Street facility that would use the recreational building." Unfortunately, I disagree with your broad assessment that "CPA funds can be used for building recreational fields and buildings on the recreational fields. What is expressly prohibited is building a gym or stadium" ...you forgot "or similar." And the construction of recreations fields is an allowed use of CPA funds but new construction of a building is not. As you noted "The legal argument against using CPA funds for a recreational building is not clear cut and there has been an existing legal precedent already established where towns have used CPA funds to renovate existing recreational buildings." There is actually a very clear distinction between renovating an existing building and new construction. As you noted "So what are we going to do... sue ourselves over non-compliance with the CPA act?" The expenditure of CPA funds is reviewed by at the State Level as well, and they can nix a project... so no we aren't going to sue ourselves. Failure to properly administer the CPA funds has larger ramifications.
    I offer the following simplistic example of why, at this time, I would not support the construction of a Rec Building with CPA funds or otherwise. A previous post on Norfolknet noted about the listing shed on Pond Street Complex. Whether or not the Rec Commission is responsible for this structure or not, they are the care takers of the fields. I view this as a good gauge of the level of commitment in the investment of a new Rec Building and how it would be taken care of. I drive by Pond Street at least two or three times a week and this shed has been leaning for months. If there has been no corrective action for a shed that cost a few thousand dollars, I have a hard time justifying a half million (or more) investment in a building.
    - WB

  • 3/24 10:25am   AL - I must have been napping, could you give more info on the loss of librarians, Spanish teachers etc?
    - MJD

  • 3/24 9:58am   The Nearly New Sale committee would like to thank the community for its overwhelming donations of children's clothes, toys, and baby equipment! As a result of the enormous contributions we will no longer be accepting donations at this time. (please do not leave items outside of the bin!)
    The Nearly New Sale will take place on Saturday, April 29th from 9 am - 12 pm at the H. Olive Day School. Be sure to come early to shop for the best deals!
    For more information or to volunteer, please contact Joan P. at joanpiller@yahoo.com (541-9291) or Anne K. at keenan.a@comcast.net (528-5429). Volunteers who help with the set up on 4/28 are eligible to pre-view and shop the sale!
    Transportation services for the event have been kindly donated by Rainbow Movers of Franklin 800-922-1020; we thank them for their generosity!
    - LR, Norfolk Community League

  • 3/24 9:48am   Perhaps the Town should consider taking the land by eminent domain and giving to someone who will develop it. For the land to remain vacant is of no benefit to the Town. I'm no lawyer, but I am pretty sure that is what eminent domain is for. Didn't some town in Connecticut take some residential property and give it to a developer?
    - DC

    [So did Sherborn if I recall correctly; that new little commercial complex next to the railroad crossing on Rte 16 was a private house whose owner didn't want to sell nor develop. - Wm.]

  • 3/24 8:39am   I don't know how many people are aware of the budget cuts that will be taking place in our schools, but I am very upset that our children will be losing the librarians, the Spanish teachers and the Health teacher. I would like to know why our school committee opted to give our superintendent a large salary increase when they should have known that these cuts were coming. Can anyone explain this to me, and is there anything that we can do about it?
    - AL

  • 3/23 11:38pm   RO - There is a butchershop in Millis called the Meatcutter. I understand he carries a high quality product.
    - MJD

  • 3/23 11:36pm   What Stop & Shop is apparently doing is shameful. While I am not eager to see one go in there, I agree something should be built there. For them to get away with this is reprehensible. A friend suggested a boycott, and I am all for it. A bad PR campaign, and every Norfolk resident taking their business to Shaws, Whole Foods, or Roche Bros. would be just what they deserve. They are a really sleazy company, and sounding more and more like WalMart every day. Consumers should send these bad businesses a strong message and stay away from them. It may not change the outcome, but Norfolk residents should not just roll over, nor should the Selectmen, and let Stop&Shop's greed prevent the town from becoming a real town. This is a story for the Globe if there ever was one.
    - TC

  • 3/23 11:00pm   To CF: I don't know which Church you are referring to, but I believe the parking lot at St. Jude's Church is deemed a Civil Defense spot, which needs to be kept clear in case of emergency. St. Jude's pays their own plow company to clean it, and then the town also maintains it for the reason cited above. As far as the CPC, if the Federated Church received money for renovations, shouldn't St. Jude's receive consideration?
    - PA

  • 3/23 10:58pm   Are there any stand alone bakeries & butchers in this area (that is, ones that aren't part of a Shaws/Stop 'n Shop type shopping centre)? Also, are there any open air markets (e.g. in "flea market", "food market") in any of the towns in this area?
    Thanks,
    - RO

  • 3/23 10:57pm   My wife and I were amused to read that the "Moonscape" has been like that for so many years! We just moved to town and assumed that it was really work in progress, that something (Stop and Shop) would be built there this year. Obviously something should be done there; a tasteful shopping center seems logical to us. We will wholeheartedly support any efforts to pressure Stop and Shop to cooperate. We'll write letters, etc.
    - SJP

  • 3/23 10:56pm   I would like the Webmaster to start a straw poll on the Grange spending. Also, could you list the members and how they voted?
    - PC

  • 3/23 8:07pm   MH, your logic is indeed faulty on the Stop & Shop issue, and for the following reason--you simply can't compare the Weeber property, which borders a bucolic farm and forest in a rural area of town, with the Stop & Shop parcel, which is at the heart of Town Center and is absolutely screaming for development.
    When you have a rolling rural area that is relatively pristine (Weber), you try to keep it that way. When you have a commercially zoned area where you've blasted a gazillion tons of rock and earth and created a gaping, ugly hole (Moonscape), you finish what you've started and complete the job. This is hardly a double standard--it seems like common sense to me.
    (When we moved to this town in the late 90's, our family drove by the moonscape and we all said "wow, what an ugly eyesore, but it looks like they're building something here, so it's OK." Recently, I was driving through Norfolk with friends from out of state, and they said--and I quote-- "wow, it looks like an atom bomb went off here! What are they building?" Sadly--eight years later--the answer seems to be "nothing." How many more years do we have to wait?)
    If you don't want a shopping center, fine, let's fill the site in with dirt, re-level the landscape, plant some grass, and build a town green. Personally, given the value of the land and the potential tax revenue, I'd prefer a tastefully built shopping center with modestly sized grocery, drug store, and maybe a real restaurant... not just to beautify town center, but to offset the two tawdry, run-down strip centers that now comprise the commercial center of town.
    Also, since the police and fire stations are roughly 1/4 mile away from the site, I don't see how a small shopping center "consumes town resources"--police and fire personnel drive by the site anyway, so unless you think the site will become a hotbed of arson and other criminal activity(!), that's a non-starter.
    So while people can disagree on town green vs. town center, we should all agree that leaving the site "as is" is simply unacceptable. It's beyond ugly--it's a true embarrassment. (The only thing worse I can think of would be a trailer park, and what we have now isn't far from that.)
    So good suggestion, TEM, on the letter-writing campaign to Stop & Shop--I'm doing it, and I hope others will too. If they hear from enough people, we might get some movement--we certainly have nothing to lose. Also, interesting post from SM on Ahold/S&S land-banking, though I don't think a legal fight makes any sense in this case--though it does help unmask their motives.
    How about comments from any selectmen out there? Any opinions?
    - RM

  • 3/23 6:44pm   I'm opposed to a shopping complex in the town center. Perhaps an idea is for the Town to purchase the land from Ahold/Stop & Shop utilizing CPC monies. I believe Ahold bought the land for $1,000,000.00 from Mr. Borelli in 2005 (or was it 2004).
    A true New England Town Green would be lovely!
    I know we keep getting into the private/public debate. But it appears that The Town of Norfolk is quite generous. Not only with CPC disbursments, but let us not forget the winter plowing of church parking lots.
    I strongly feel that the walking loop and parking lots at Pond Street complex should be plowed before the church parking lots. It would allow many of us to safely continue our exercise programs after a snow storm.
    By the way, the weather has been marvelous and an abundance of robins this Spring!
    - CF

  • 3/23 6:12pm   It is ironic the double standard that has developed in regards to the Stop & Shop land and the Community Preservation Commission acquisitions. It is acceptable for the town to use taxpayer money to buy land to let it remain vacant (Weber Property), but not an outside corporation. I don't personally want a grocery store going in there. From my way of thinking, Stop & Shop is paying taxes even if the land is vacant, and it is not costing us anything in regards to the extra fire and police services that developing the land would create. I acknowledge that the town would receive more money from the taxes on a building rather than vacant land, but it would be at a cost to the town resources. Please correct me if this logic is faulty.
    I voted against the use of CPC monies going toward the Federated Church -- there were several of us at the poorly attended town meeting that were opposed for the exact reason that his happening now. If the Federated Church can get money for renovations, (after all it is a landmark in the town) then there is no reason why the Grange Hall shouldn't. As I stated at the meeting, this a terrible can of worms that we will all be paying for. Just out of curiosity -- the Grange Hall receives money for hosting events in that location. What does that money go toward if not building and grounds maintenance?
    - MH

  • 3/23 5:04pm   WB, There are a lot of Norfolk residents that take their kids to the Pond Street facility that would use the recreational building. Also the concession stands would generate revenue to offset our costs. So the support is deeper than just the Recreational Committee. CPA funds can be used for building recreational fields and buildings on the recreational fields. What is expressly prohibited is building a gym or stadium. The legal argument against using CPA funds for a recreational building is not clear cut and there has been an existing legal precedent already established where towns have used CPA funds to renovate existing recreational buildings. Besides these CPA funds belong to Norfolk taxpayers. So what are we going to do... sue ourselves over non-compliance with the CPA act?
    - SM

  • 3/23 4:27pm   Our Town Counsel needs to send a strongly worded letter to Stop and Shop. This should be followed by a public relations campaign. The selectman should send out a press release (with a copy of the letter sent to Stop and Shop) to all print and TV media.
    Unless we have legal recourse, Stop and Shop will only back down if we embarrass them. Stop and Shop is well known for employing hardball business tactics.
    - SM

  • 3/23 4:24pm   To SM: I think I keep up to date on Town on-goings, and as you stated, that there is support by many people of a Rec Building on the Pond Street Complex - I just don't see it, nor have I heard it. What I have experienced and heard is a small group of very vocal people that feel Recreation deserves to get money from the CPA - good, bad or indifferent. I would say that the attitude is a sense of entitlement. Is the Rec Commission doing their homework? I don't know, I just can't seem to get past what seems like whining.
    Having worked with EOEA, several Towns and Land Trusts to preserve and protect several large parcels of land in Southeastern Massachusetts and along Route 2, the actual workings on what can be done with CPA funds is very clear. Prior to acquisition, most of the land was farm land, soccer fields or wooded land. This land use has not changed. I sat in on discussions with the Town committees and land trusts about building a storage garage for equipment, town offices or even, yes, a rec center and they could not use CPA funds as interpreted by several different lawyers.
    You can look at the link that RH posted and you will find the following: "Recreational use", active or passive recreational use including, but not limited to, the use of land for community gardens, trails, and noncommercial youth and adult sports, and the use of land as a park, playground or athletic field. "Recreational use" shall not include horse or dog racing or the use of land for a stadium, gymnasium or similar structure."
    The same link will point out the gray areas on what can be done with CPA funds.
    Don't get me wrong, I think that the Recreation Commission provides a great service to the Town and I and my kids have participated in many programs offered over the past 8 years. If the Rec Commission would just stick to the facts and not make this an emotional and personal issue, I truly believe that their proposal would get farther along.
    - WB

  • 3/23 3:52pm   A quick Google search revealed two corporate addresses and three major players for Stop & Shop:
    (1) Stop & Shop Supermarket Company, Public Affairs Department, P. O. Box 55888, Boston, MA 02205,
    (2) Stop & Shop Supermarket Company, 1385 Hancock Street, Quincy Center Plaza, Quincy, MA 02169,
    (3) Marc E. Smith, President & CEO,
    (4) Richard Picariello, Vice-President & CFO, and
    (5) Faith Weiner, Director of Government & Public Affairs.
    Although written inquiries from Norfolk residents directed to one or more of the above regarding the fate of the land they purchased could result in nothing more than puffy PR non-answers, there's also the possibility they might gives us a clue regarding actual deadlines or plans. Worth a try?
    - TEM

  • 3/23 3:44pm   Ahold (Stop & Shop's Dutch Corporate Parent) actively employs a strategy of monopolizing regional food markets by buying out other food stores and purchasing land and buildings (through its real estate partners) to suppress competition. Once Ahold has gained significant control of a local market, their food prices are much higher than what they charge in competitive markets.
    A good read on Ahold's anti-completive tactics can be found at [UConn PDF]. This report states
    "Ahold/Stop & Shop's latest attempt to erect barriers to entry in the northeast United States involves its acquisition of shopping centers and other sites suitable for supermarkets not for the purpose of operating a supermarket, but so that a competing supermarket cannot operate on the site. For example, as noted above, Starwood Ceruzzi acquired a Big V store in Poughkeepsie, New York across the street from a Stop & Shop, and rather than lease the store to a Stop & Shop competitor, the site has remained without a tenant for over one year, In fact, I understand from Wakefern that Stop & Shop has acquired no fewer than ten shopping centers in the northeast, and that only one of these centers has a supermarket tenant. Moreover, Starwood Ceruzzi, which in the past has developed supermarkets for Stop & Shop and acquired supermarkets and then sold these stores to Stop & Shop, has purchased fourteen shopping centers. Not one of these fourteen centers has a supermarket tenant. This anti-competitive "land-banking" strategy is consistent with the conduct of Ahold/Stop & Shop described above-to erect and maintain barriers to entry and thereby acquire and maintain a dominant position in the regions where ShopRite competes. The impact of this conduct on reducing competition cannot be understated: as recognized by Thomas Infusino, Wakefern's Chairman, when he testified at trial as to entry barriers (Big V Supermarkets, Inc. v. Wakefern Food Corp.): ..."

    [From Univ of Conn Dept of Agricultural and Resource Economics, Food Marketing Policy Center: An Antitrust Economic Analysis of Stop & Shop's Proposed Acquisition of the Big V Shop Rite Supermarket Chain, by Ronald W. Cotterill, Feb 2002]]

    This is what is happening to us in Norfolk!! We need to mobile our forces and fight back!!
    - SM

    [The strategy is not unique; Wal-Mart has been accused of similar: building new stores and operating them just long enough to drive competitors out of the area, then shuttering the store and leaving the building empty, neither selling nor leasing the premises. Drives up profits at the other area Wal-Mart stores. - Wm.]

  • 3/23 3:43pm   It's great that minutes from SOME meetings will be posted. I was trying to find out info on a past Conservation Commission meeting, and that page happens to be blank. Not a single meeting has any semblance of minutes posted. I needed to look into a past meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals, and they do post their minutes... but the last meeting they opted to post the minutes from was in August of 2004...
    As far as the CPC, can they allocate funds for Norfolk's rink (it looks like other privately owned buildings have received funding) or how about St. Jude's Church (other churches have received aid?)
    - JC

  • 3/23 1:07pm   To Paul Terrio -
    Paul,
    Thanks for your response. I am happy to hear that CPC meeting minutes (I hope the votes as well) will be posted on the town web site so residents can be better informed of the CPC proceedings. I know that the CPC narrowly defeated (5-4) the proposal to fund the recreational building at the Pond Street Complex. What is the process to bring this funding proposal back to the board again for reconsideration. The CPC funding of the Pond Street Recreational Building is supported by many residents.
    What is the exact date and time of your next CPC meeting?
    - SM

  • 3/23 1:01pm   The Federated Church of Norfolk Sunday worship service is at 10:00 a.m. with Church School for children preschool through Grade 8; coffee and Fellowship follow service. Our interim Pastor is Rev. Steven Alspach.
    Holy Week and Easter schedule is:
    Palm Sunday, April 9 - Worship and Sunday School
    Maundy Thursday - April 13, 7:30 PM Candlelight Communion Service
    Good Friday, April 14 - Prayer Vigil - Noon -5:00 PM
    Worship Service - 7:30 PM
    Easter Sunday - April 16
    Sunrise Service 6:00 AM (location: Norfolk Cemetery)
    Worship Services, 8:00 AM , 10:00 AM Services. (in church sanctuary)
    No Sunday School classes Child care at 10:00 service for children up to age 4.
    - LD, Federated Church of Norfolk

  • 3/23 1:01pm   Regarding Stop `N Shop, I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that they are engaging in a practice called ``land banking'' where a retail chain buys a piece of property and lets it sit vacant to keep out potential competition. This is fairly common among large retailers, and certainly understandable if you consider the number of new grocery stores opened in the area recently--a new Stop N Shop off 146 in Foxboro near the Norfolk line; a store in the new shopping center in Medway (Star Market, I think); the new Big Y at 27 & Route 1; the renovation of the Shaws in Medfield; there are probably others.
    These new stores are fighting for every dollar, and they must be putting real pressure on the older stores (I bet the Roche Brothers in Millis is hurting.) The last thing Stop N Shop wants to do is build a new store in Norfolk that cannibalizes their other stores, or worse yet, have Whole Foods or some other chain come in here. The answer? Land bank the site--it's much more economical than building a new store.
    The problem is that this site is the ``crown jewel'' of our town's redevelopment plans. We're all tired of the eyesore that is the moonscape, and after many years, it's frustrating to have Stop N Shop holding the development of the town center hostage. It would be different, say, if Dunkin Donuts bought an acre on the edge of town to keep out Honey Dew donuts--that's understandable. But the size, visibility, and strategic importance of the Stop N Shop parcel calls for some type of development, so it may be time to put some pressure on Stop N Shop.
    I'd start by calling or writing the selectmen and asking them to get the straight story from Stop N Shop, and publish the timeline for construction and permits. If that fails, a campaign of public pressure would be in order. Being locally based (Quincy), they wouldn't want a PR fight, not when they are trying to build in other towns (see today's Globe about the fight they are having with Northboro); they have to be sensitive to the goodwill of the communities in the Boston area. A few Norfolk citizens banding together could make things very ugly for them.
    If it comes to that, their likely proposal would be to offer to sell the property with a restriction clause, forbidding a grocery store from operating on the site. This would reduce the value of the land but would protect their competitive interests. But that's also a losing proposition for a town, since we don't need a 60,000 square foot dry cleaner or flower shop, and no one in their right mind would build such a thing. So the land would continue to sit vacant. A grocery store IS the right use for that land, and another chain would likely be interested if it was available. If Stop N Shop won't build, the decent thing to do is for them to sell it to someone who will. After all the money spent redeveloping town center, we deserve no less.
    - RM

  • 3/23 12:54pm   Yesterday around 3 - 3:30pm the Norfolk Fire Ladder truck was extended next to Town Hall. It appeared that two firefighters were adjusting the weathervane on top of Town Hall. Driving through town center a little later, the kids noticed that the weathervane was indeed taken down. I'm guessing it needed some work, but my kids are questioning my answer and are curious as to when it will go back up. I'm pretty sure that this has something to do with seeing the ladder truck in operation again, but I thought I'd throw out the question to the knowledgeable folks here. Thanks for the help!
    - TS

  • 3/23 12:53pm   Mr Terrio, I just happened to read your post regarding the town pond renewal effort. I had no idea this was even an upcoming issue. I have lived in Norfolk for almost 30 years and have quite fond memories of swimming there as a younger child. I applaud the efforts of the rec committee and plan to be at the meeting April 1st. Thanks for bringing this to Norfolknet.com
    - JG

  • 3/23 11:59am  
    Dear SM,
    Hi, I am the Chairman of the Norfolk Community Preservation Committee. Thank you for your input and comments about our recent decisions and actions. I always like to encourage citizen input regardless of which side of the proposal you are on.
    I would also like to invite you to one of our meetings. I don't think that I have met you but I would certainly enjoy hearing what you have to say. We are scheduled to meet every 3rd Wednesday of the month. We often have other meetings that are not posted as far in advance due to timely issues and items that are up for consideration but I can assure you that all of our meetings are properly posted according to the law and that any of our minutes are available for review upon request. We are currently working on posting our minutes to the town's official website and hopefully you should be able to see something in the next 30 to 60 days.
    Just for the record, we posted for a discussion of the Town Pond Project at the Old Town Hall on April 1st 2006 @ 9:00 AM on Main Street. This will give all of us a better idea of the Recreation Department's vision for the restoration project that has been proposed and placed on the Spring Town Meeting Warrant. Our regular monthly meeting will be held on April 19th in the Town Hall.
    We are currently coming into a very busy period with the upcoming Town Meeting and everyone's input is truly appreciated.
    Sincerely,
    - Paul H. Terrio, District One, Chairman, Norfolk Community Preservation Committee

  • 3/23 10:43am   Re: 3/23 9:15am ... I read here earlier that Marie Simpson is the contact for the Grange. Is this the same Marie Simpson who works for the Conservation Commission and the Zoning Board of Appeals? Just curious. - JC
    Yes, part-time work at both jobs.
    - BH

  • 3/23 10:41am   Regarding the CPC funding; I believe that the funding for the Grange still needs to be approved at Town Meeting so you will have the opportunity to represent yourself and vote. In fact, the Weeber property purchase and painting of the Federated Church(including fixing the steeple) were both approved at TM. The Federated Church monies were approved, I believe, because the representatives of the church convinced the voters and CPC that the church is enjoyed by everyone in town as a landmark and historic structure. The Weeber property purchase was approved for many different reasons; the main argument that swayed me was that it provides a buffer to Jane and Paul's farm which is enjoyed by everyone. There also was the potential impact to Jane and Paul's of the dense building and retention pond that the builder was proposing. Next Town Meeting is May 9. If the Grange painting is one of the warrants, you'll get to present your arguments and vote.
    - BS

  • 3/23 9:15am   TC: About the Grange... I see that funds were approved for the renovation by the CPC. I read here earlier that Marie Simpson is the contact for the Grange. Is this the same Marie Simpson who works for the Conservation Commission and the Zoning Board of Appeals? Just curious.
    - JC

  • 3/23 9:12am   The Norfolk TPA has started its Ink Jet Cartridge/Laser Print Cartridge/Cell Phone Recycling Program! Please drop off any of these items that you no longer use at the many sites listed below. Money collected by the TPA from the recycling company will go towards curriculum programs, teacher grants, scholarships, and many other uses within our schools. Please refrain from donating cell phone accessories.
    Any questions, call Kate M. or Danielle R., Norfolk TPA, at 541-8555 or 528-9926. We appreciate your support!
    Sites for Drop Off:
    H. Olive Day School
    Freeman-Centennial School
    Town Library
    Transfer Station
    Senior Center
    Town Hall- in the Main Foyer and in the Park & Rec, Office
    - KM, Norfolk TPA

  • 3/23 9:11am   AL, I would suggest craigslist.org or freecycle.org. I would anticipate that you might have to pay for one though. I would also suggest that when you get it, you call the Police Departments around here to find a police officer who is qualified to install it (they get special training). A car seat that is improperly installed puts the child in danger. Good luck!
    - KGD

  • 3/23 8:45am   Just wondering if anyone out there has success with getting oil C.O.D. After reading yesterday's postings I was annoyed to see Horan gave $2.00/gal when I am "capped" for $2.49 with them. When I called to inquire about the discrepency, I was told that is a new customer price and that is just how it is. Fine. We canceled. When doing COD - how far in advance should one call to get a delivery and what kind of prices are folks finding?
    Thank you!
    - KS

  • 3/23 8:44am   TC, You have a right to be frustrated regarding the CPC. They rejected funding for constructing a building at the Pond Street Recreational Complex, a facility that would be used by a majority of residents since most kids participate in sports. Then they approve funding for renovating the Grange Hall, a privately owned building which is not used by the majority of the residents. What's next from this committee? The CPC is lacking a long-term master plan and a vision that all residents buy into. If CPA funds can't be used to benefit all town residents we should vote to repeal the CPA Preservation Act which is tacking on (I think) a 3% surcharge to your tax bill. Taxation without representation will not be tolerated!
    - SM

  • 3/23 8:43am   AL-Boosters are really cheap, less than $30 at most stores if you buy the one without the back (kid has to be over 40lbs) It is much safer to buy a new one than to make due with an older model as they change and are made safer every year. You can't put a price on safety!
    - MJD

  • 3/23 7:50am   Does anyone know where to find used car seats (preferably the 20-80lbs seat for kids)? I need to find one ASAP, and really don't want to buy a new one.
    - AL